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Gaal's avatar

With regards to throwing around accusations of antisemitism, I do think calling Zohran antisemitic repeatedly is a bad idea. On the face, he appears extremely warm and charming and the accusation seems absurd to normies.

I have seen him in shows like Flagrant when he’s baited by low IQ pod bros to talk about powerful peoples obsession with calling Israel critics antisemitic, Zohran expresses sympathy with Palestinians but doesn’t take the bait and says antisemitism is a real problem and shuts them down, quite smoothly imo. Obviously this doesn’t get to what in his heart, but it is a level of responsible (if fake) public behavior the left doesn’t often practice.

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Moses Sternstein's avatar

Good post, as per usual.

A couple of things:

--are jews (or anyone else) accusing more people of antisemitism? which friends have been construed as the enemy? (that would certainly describe, I would think, the longer-running mission of say the ADL, which is a bad org, imo, but the recent delta doesn't sound in that vein, but maybe that's wrong)

--relatedly, my sense of the problem is distributional: it's not how much, but who. the question is whether antisemitism is rising amongst taste- and policy-makers, which (as you know) can be a leading indicator. Tucker is some random dude in his basement.

--re. 'I'm not antisemitic, I'm just anti-zionist,' I think that distinction is fraught with peril. If the majority of the world's jews are israeli, and a very strong contingent of american jews (and nearly all non-ultra orthodox practicing jews) are zionist, then as a practical matter, anti-zionism is functionally anti-(a lot) of jews. At a deeper level, it's just hard to justify anti-zionism without recourse to antisemitism (or just committed leftism/third-worldism). I know that people try, but it doesn't withstand scrutiny, and the best explanation imo is just coalitional gravitational pull...it makes sense to rationalize anti-zionism bc it makes sense to broaden party appeal to anti-zionists, i.e. arab/islamic ethnocentrism and parochialism. I think it's fair to characterize that shift as 'antisemitic' even if 'reported feelings about jews' are static. Perhaps we need a better/newer word, but 'throw the jews under the bus [unless they surrender to the supremacist demands of islamic revanchism] bc it's just politics baby' is a concerning outcome.

I'm curious if there's similar data about Europe. If Europeans hadn't changed their view of jews, and one were still to conclude that 'anti-semitism wasn't rising in Europe' then I think there's an issue with that analysis.

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