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Feel free to look at Shellenberger’s exhaustive research, or just join the field of mental health with me and see for yourself. If you want to challenge my claims, feel free to cite evidence, documentaries, personal experience, or anything else that would persuade someone of your position, like I’ve tried to do.

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A good, annotated place to start is here: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://homelesslaw.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Homeless_Stats_Fact_Sheet.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjP6YvEw5CHAxWGHDQIHcaLDKwQFnoECBkQBg&usg=AOvVaw03n-78M27BWJMKqI-Jy6SA

(That'll take you to a downloadable PDF or some similar) if you dislike the source of the document itself, please note all of the footnotes and external sources. If you would like me to track down URLs for those sources, please let me know.

You'll see that substance abuse is low on the list of proximate causes for homelessness.

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Michael shellenberger has no relevant experience, and no peer-reviewed research whatsoever on this topic. A good discussion of his... Knowledge of the topic can be found here, making points similar to what I've made here, but unlike shellenberger, based on actual research done by relevant professionals in the field. A simple Google search for get you to that research. But if you need me to do that ground work for you, I'd be happy to do so.

https://prospect.org/culture/books/homelessness-meets-cluelessness-shellenberger-review/

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“Shellenberger refuses to admit that mental illness is often caused by homelessness”, the article says.. You and this author clearly don’t work in mental health, understand the nature of the psyche, or know real people that suffer from substance use issues. I can only encourage you to go out on the street and talk to real people here in Portland where I live or in SF, for example. Your luxury beliefs won’t last long.

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I actually work with homeless people in portland. What he says about that is actually true. Do you have some expertise in mental health that we don't know about? I haven't been to school for it, but when they trained me to work with the homeless in portland, they taught me the signs and taught me the pathologies.

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I don't mean to do this interaction to "win" but instead to ask you and anybody was reading along, to stop a little bit back from your visceral reactions to homelessness in your community. The sanitation, the trepidation into the parks that make you feel uncomfortable. All of that. And put aside your need to blame these people, to at least acknowledge that the causes of these things are what they are. And the solutions need to acknowledge what the real causes are. Not that you like so many people in Portland feel it's hopeless and it's better to get them out of the way and blame them then to actually address what's going on.

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And for what it's worth I think what he's talking about there for mental illness is the onset of emotional problems and that segment of mental illness. Typically the more major mental illnesses like schizophrenia and so on are only exacerbated by homelessness.

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Let me know if you can't get the homeless law link to work and I'll figure out some other way to get it to you.

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